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Jul 6 2023

20after4 added a comment to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues..

Interesting.... Herald could probably start the flow, but there's still more parts needed (update vs create revision, extract summary and test plan)

Jul 6 2023, 13:14 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.

( The CLA → https://secure.phabricator.com/L28 )

Jul 6 2023, 11:30 · Discussion Needed, Governance
avivey added a comment to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.

If it's urgent, we can apply a strict CLA now (basically copy Phacility), and soften it later, once we've had legal counsel.

Jul 6 2023, 10:39 · Discussion Needed, Governance
Sten added a comment to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues..

Has anyone experimented with using arcanist in a docker container? I see two people have published these on dockerhub:

Jul 6 2023, 10:00 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.

It's all a matter of risks after all. Keeping everything as-is ("all rights reserved") just increases risks for every contributor, including Administrators.

Jul 6 2023, 09:52 · Discussion Needed, Governance
avivey added a comment to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.

yeah, well, we still can't afford legal advice. If some funded organization is willing to donate some, we'll appreciate it.

Jul 6 2023, 09:34 · Discussion Needed, Governance
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.

At the moment, if somebody makes a comment in the website with a creative snippet, that is "all rights reserved" from that author. Same on Differential, since volatile patches can be somehow considered as out of the repository.

Jul 6 2023, 09:31 · Discussion Needed, Governance
avivey added a comment to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.

@valerio.bozzolan I think you're confusing this task ("website content") and T15121 (contributor agreement).

Jul 6 2023, 09:28 · Discussion Needed, Governance
valerio.bozzolan raised the priority of T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents from High to Unbreak Now!.

Since I am not currently authorized to make changes on other people's code from comments or Differential and I don't want to be vulnerable to copyright trolling.

Jul 6 2023, 09:26 · Discussion Needed, Governance

Jul 5 2023

avivey added a comment to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues..

Interesting.... Herald could probably start the flow, but there's still more parts needed (update vs create revision, extract summary and test plan), and it technically can't delete the branch (it can prevent it from being created, but that shows up as an error in the user-side).
But it should be able to at least trigger the flow and provide a URL for the user to click on.

Jul 5 2023, 20:26 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist
Ekubischta added a comment to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues..

Could this be solved with a Herald action?

Jul 5 2023, 19:28 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist
20after4 added a comment to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues..

I suspect there's also a problem of motivation: These things are lots of work, and the people who are capable of performing them - people who are comfortable with working with these tools - will not personally benefit from this stuff. The people who would benefit the most are people who are not involved in the project at all...

Jul 5 2023, 16:23 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist
valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.
Jul 5 2023, 08:15 · Discussion Needed, Governance
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents.

Uhm. Have we any idea about how to unlock this situation?

Jul 5 2023, 08:14 · Discussion Needed, Governance

Jul 4 2023

avivey added a comment to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues..

I think the current actionable steps we can take are:

Jul 4 2023, 18:10 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist
ton added a comment to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues..

I posted this in a separate thread, but it is definitely related: https://we.phorge.it/T15524

Jul 4 2023, 17:38 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist

Jul 3 2023

avivey added a project to T15096: Discuss Arcanist as a barrier to adoption of Phorge and how to address the underlying issues.: Discussion Needed.
Jul 3 2023, 18:13 · Discussion Needed, Arcanist

Jun 28 2023

Cigaryno added a project to T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards.: Feature Requests.
Jun 28 2023, 21:28 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Jun 27 2023

avivey added a comment to T15501: Voluntary Usage Survey App.

How would we as phorge upstream use the info? Would it inform development? Be just informational?

Jun 27 2023, 07:41 · Discussion Needed

Jun 26 2023

chris added a comment to T15501: Voluntary Usage Survey App.

How would we as phorge upstream use the info? Would it inform development? Be just informational?

Jun 26 2023, 15:48 · Discussion Needed
valerio.bozzolan edited Description on Discussion Needed.
Jun 26 2023, 14:33
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15501: Voluntary Usage Survey App.

Premising that a CLI script could be not enough, probably better a frontend button so to be able to know if it's mod_php or PHP-fpm etc.

Jun 26 2023, 14:16 · Discussion Needed
jbo added a comment to T15501: Voluntary Usage Survey App.

Personally, I'd be willing to manually fill out a survey. I'd heavily oppose anything that phones home in any capacity.
An app/script which generates some report which can be manually copy-pasted sounds reasonable.

Jun 26 2023, 13:41 · Discussion Needed
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15501: Voluntary Usage Survey App.

Uhm. Maybe we can create a script or a frontend button to auto-answer most of these questions.

Jun 26 2023, 11:21 · Discussion Needed

Jun 25 2023

avivey created T15501: Voluntary Usage Survey App.
Jun 25 2023, 11:33 · Discussion Needed

Jun 24 2023

avivey added a comment to T15470: Include user email address in Conduit output when query is run by admin.

For completeness, my arguments against this:

Jun 24 2023, 09:04 · Conduit, Discussion Needed, Feature Requests

Jun 20 2023

bekay added a comment to T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.

I think the current revision is a good compromise. The current behavior makes no sense from the perspective of modern UX patterns:

Jun 20 2023, 13:51 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
valerio.bozzolan moved T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default from Backlog to PingDeath 🌚 on the User-valerio.bozzolan board.
Jun 20 2023, 09:32 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
valerio.bozzolan added a project to T15131: Add Workboards support for Differential: Discussion Needed.
Jun 20 2023, 07:35 · Clarification Needed, Differential, Workboard, User-Cigaryno

Jun 19 2023

speck added a comment to T15470: Include user email address in Conduit output when query is run by admin.

I think updating the user script is a good idea if this functionality is needed.

Jun 19 2023, 22:56 · Conduit, Discussion Needed, Feature Requests
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.
In T15161#4416, @avivey wrote:

I agree with this, but I think we should let this wait for broader discussion - there maybe good counter-arguments.

Jun 19 2023, 13:30 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
aklapper placed T15470: Include user email address in Conduit output when query is run by admin up for grabs.
Jun 19 2023, 11:39 · Conduit, Discussion Needed, Feature Requests
aklapper closed T15470: Include user email address in Conduit output when query is run by admin as Wontfix.

Then let's decline this ticket to reflect the status.

Jun 19 2023, 11:39 · Conduit, Discussion Needed, Feature Requests
valerio.bozzolan added a project to T15470: Include user email address in Conduit output when query is run by admin: Conduit.
Jun 19 2023, 07:28 · Conduit, Discussion Needed, Feature Requests
avivey added a comment to T15470: Include user email address in Conduit output when query is run by admin.

(I'm against this, but I don't have the time to go into details right now. I suggest a CLI tool (like ./bin/user) to expose this information).

Jun 19 2023, 06:44 · Conduit, Discussion Needed, Feature Requests

Jun 17 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a project to T15470: Include user email address in Conduit output when query is run by admin: Discussion Needed.
Jun 17 2023, 16:37 · Conduit, Discussion Needed, Feature Requests

Jun 12 2023

avivey added a project to T15322: Footer: specify a default Libre license for Phorge contents: Discussion Needed.
Jun 12 2023, 06:38 · Discussion Needed, Governance

May 22 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.

Premising I am trying to make few variations to the current behavior implemented by Evan

May 22 2023, 20:29 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup

May 3 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.

Just to clarify as a side note, this will probably not solve the problem of people wanting to reorder their Milestones.

May 3 2023, 13:26 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.
May 3 2023, 13:22 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup

Apr 26 2023

valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.
Apr 26 2023, 18:44 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup

Apr 25 2023

avivey removed a project from T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards.: phorge.it install.
Apr 25 2023, 07:19 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Apr 14 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.

Maybe we can start implementing this just like the way the Show hidden Columns top-right Workboard menu was implemented: so, we add a Show Sub-Projects as a way to use that filter, but not as default.
This can give a margin of creativity to change things without much complaints, and still gives the ability to have a permalink to that situation, and so, allowing to adopt that view as default.

Apr 14 2023, 09:20 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
avivey added a comment to T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.

I think I just imagined replacing the (default) query from "tasks tagged with project X" to "tasks tagged with project X or any subproject of X".

Apr 14 2023, 09:17 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
avivey updated the task description for T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.
Apr 14 2023, 09:14 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.

Apart from my wall of text, having said that a Task cannot stay in multiple Milestones from the same project, so on the Workboard you never see duplicates, this is the current blocking:

a Task can be attached to multiple Sub-Projects

So, probably this simply cannot be done as-is now, without deciding what to do, to avoid duplicate Tasks on the same Workboards, when we will somehow introduce this feature

Apr 14 2023, 08:51 · Discussion Needed, Workboard

Apr 7 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a revision to T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default: D25118: Remarkup: make less internal links open in new tabs.
Apr 7 2023, 21:14 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup

Apr 6 2023

valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.
Apr 6 2023, 15:48 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.
Apr 6 2023, 15:48 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.

Apart from my wall of text, having said that a Task cannot stay in multiple Milestones from the same project, so on the Workboard you never see duplicates, this is the current blocking:

Apr 6 2023, 15:47 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.

To be honest this could create a performance issue in my installation, since I use Sub-Projects as a simple way to collect many Projects that must be grouped but that have different features.

Apr 6 2023, 15:19 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
avivey edited projects for T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards., added: Maniphest; removed Maniphest (archived).
Apr 6 2023, 10:52 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Apr 5 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.

Interesting question.

Apr 5 2023, 13:33 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
avivey updated the task description for T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.
Apr 5 2023, 12:20 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
avivey created T15231: Maybe make automatic workboard display sub-projects as columns?.
Apr 5 2023, 12:10 · Discussion Needed, Workboard
avivey added a comment to T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards..

I don't personally have much insight into the "board" functionality, because I've never used boards in any setup other then as a simple table, and none of the workflows that involve moving small pieces of paper around make sense to me.

Apr 5 2023, 10:50 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Apr 4 2023

MBinder_WMF added a comment to T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards..

I think a tooltip would clear up some of the confusion around the numbers and what they mean. However, I think the issue described here is less about how confusing it is, and more about how the UX expectation is typically centered around count rather than points. For example, which has the denominator, turns the UI red, etc. So, a good idea! I just think it's separate. :)

Apr 4 2023, 21:05 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard
avivey added a comment to T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards..

By "tooltip" do you mean something that activates when hovering with a mouse?

Apr 4 2023, 08:57 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Apr 3 2023

MBinder_WMF added a comment to T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards..
In T15100#5480, @avivey wrote:

@MBinder_WMF - how much of this will be solved if we just add a tooltip to the [ X | Y / Z ] header?

Apr 3 2023, 22:18 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard
avivey added a comment to T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards..

@MBinder_WMF - how much of this will be solved if we just add a tooltip to the [ X | Y / Z ] header?

Apr 3 2023, 08:09 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard
Cigaryno moved T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards. from Backlog to Feature Requests on the Discussion Needed board.
Apr 3 2023, 07:17 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Apr 2 2023

Cigaryno set the image for Discussion Needed to F275548: profile.
Apr 2 2023, 08:16
Cigaryno set the icon for Discussion Needed to Tag.
Apr 2 2023, 08:16

Mar 31 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15131: Add Workboards support for Differential.

I think we can remove the Discussion Needed Tag since at the moment we just need to clarify a bit the feature, before being able to discuss it with more people

Mar 31 2023, 20:12 · Clarification Needed, Differential, Workboard, User-Cigaryno
Cigaryno updated the task description for T15131: Add Workboards support for Differential.
Mar 31 2023, 16:15 · Clarification Needed, Differential, Workboard, User-Cigaryno
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15131: Add Workboards support for Differential.

Ihihih OK my friend

Mar 31 2023, 16:13 · Clarification Needed, Differential, Workboard, User-Cigaryno
Cigaryno moved T15131: Add Workboards support for Differential from Feature Requests to Discussion Needed on the User-Cigaryno board.
Mar 31 2023, 16:12 · Clarification Needed, Differential, Workboard, User-Cigaryno

Mar 30 2023

Cigaryno moved T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards. from Backlog to Discussion Needed on the Maniphest (archived) board.
Mar 30 2023, 12:23 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Mar 29 2023

valerio.bozzolan closed T15181: Document the configuration "uri.same-window" of PhutilRemarkupEngine, a subtask of T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default, as Wontfix.
Mar 29 2023, 17:46 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup

Mar 28 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a project to T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default: User-valerio.bozzolan.
Mar 28 2023, 09:03 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup

Mar 27 2023

valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.
Mar 27 2023, 15:08 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.
Mar 27 2023, 15:07 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
Cigaryno moved T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards. from Backlog to Discussion Needed on the Affects-Wikimedia board.
Mar 27 2023, 08:31 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Mar 26 2023

valerio.bozzolan added a project to T15100: [Feature request] Option to measure WIP limits based on card count instead of points, to more closely adhere to Kanban standards.: Discussion Needed.
Mar 26 2023, 08:57 · Feature Requests, Maniphest, Discussion Needed, Affects-Wikimedia, Workboard

Mar 25 2023

valerio.bozzolan updated the task description for T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.
Mar 25 2023, 21:38 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
valerio.bozzolan added a comment to T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.

I agree. Having said that I'm not bold enough to propose a "default: open in same tab" since at the moment we have the exact contrary. That is why I proposed this compromise based on the destination.

Mar 25 2023, 13:30 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
valerio.bozzolan renamed T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default from Internal pages should open in the same tab as default to Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default.
Mar 25 2023, 11:11 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
avivey added a project to T15161: Internal resources should avoid to become external links, as default: Discussion Needed.
Mar 25 2023, 10:23 · User-valerio.bozzolan, Discussion Needed, Remarkup
avivey created Discussion Needed.
Mar 25 2023, 10:23