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I was gonna say it's been stable for me at least . . . but then I remembered it was some other servers I updated to a base OS that came with PHP 8.x, on my two Ph instances I'm on 7.4 and 7.2 still, whoops!

I will temporarily join Gopher Burrow to create the workboard and then leave.

Do you think Packages is any useful on this install? And have we heard of anyone in the wild using Owners on their Phabricator/Phorge install?

[PhOrGe PrOmO] Review D25823 now! 100% easy to test, 50% hard to master 💅

@aklapper we should have at least 25 minute free for a patch party @ fosdem

@valerio.bozzolan Eh eh at least we met :)

Did you know it is still possible to create a test Phabricator instance at Phacility?

ahaha no

I tried to create a test instance, and it actually works and as excepted gets destroyed after 7 days. https://admin.phacility.com/instances/new

OK. I'm impressed

Anyone in for reviewing some (hopefully) trivial PHP 8.1 fixes in https://we.phorge.it/differential/?ids=25867,25868,25875#R ? <3

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Find out. :)

Haha, I saw the option was available. I just don't want to be banned. I made a second pass and commented on D25868

@slip when a user accepts a revision on this install, it will only be marked as 'Accepted' if the user is member of Blessed Committers as all revs have O1: Blessed Committers is Blocking so that users not member of Blessed Committers cannot fully approve revisions.

Thanks for the clarification @Cigaryno I did look at the contributor docs earlier but missed that. I'm still happy to weigh in, despite not being blessed 😅

But still I advise you to stop licking on Accept Revision so that you won't create unnecessary notifications (and emails).

BTW I think everyone is really encouraged to click Accept Revision but really better to do it with a comment explaining what was tested and why, so we collaborate, and others can guess what was maybe ignored, or what is already strong-tested 👍

What valerio just wrote ^^^ I think we absolutely welcome (and need) more folks testing patches (because time...), ideally with good and clear comments what was tested and how

No worries. I saw the request this morning as an opportunity to contribute a little. The changes were simple and the tests passed, so I didn't elaborate.

Is miss understanding the intended accept/reject review workflow something that happens often? Usually I'd expect the option to not be available if the intent is to not want me to use it. Would an option to not show the accept/reject options for repositories something that would be useful?

I think everything I can thing about, including Gerrit, GitLab, GitHub, and Phorge included, has not any serious "reviewer welcoming toolkit". For Gerrit, GitHub and GitLab this is mostly because they just deny this kind of contributions. In the case of Phorge, we have the opportunity for better distinction for this "soft approve" ( T15510 )

In short no, I don't think that hiding/blocking a button would improve the review process

Ah excellent, that would cover it then. Thanks for the details!

I know it is planned to replace rHP Home Page with R10 PhorgeIt Extension, but I think somebody should take care of T15801. Should I?

Ooh I like the bit in R10 for notifying that an Ubuntu server needs a restart, I do already have central monitoring set up for my work instance but I uhhh am not as religious about checking it as I should be lol

That's weird: in VSCode, the file I open from rP (which I cloned using git clone and used it for several revisions) has a DOS Newlines lint error on the first from arc-vscode (on ANY file, including .editorconfig, .arcconfig, etc.). This only happens when I open the folder containing the Phorge repo directly from a new VSCode window and click on any file in the Explorer pane.

Running arc lint confirms line 1 becomes a DOS Newline.

Found the fix: change eol in VSCode settings to /n.

@aklapper I can't wait for the next wmhack :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 :3
I think it's been 3 years that I've been waiting to have a blessed committer on the side and with a cute laptopy (for more than 14 seconds I mean) lol

and possibly a beer or something

and possibly without a random person full-dressed like HelloKitty running away with the wallet of a random hacker and some unexpected other things to contour our night (?)

@valerio.bozzolan Yeah I'll be around if you want to enter a dreamworld of Phorge magic together with me (ideally this time without street fights and black eyes)

don't jinx it

What else should we document here? lol https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Arcanist

"TIA"? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tia

Hah!

Urban Dictionary is pretty bad at acronyms, especially since it doesn't even preserve capitalization when you search and seems thus to be at best case-insensitive. I'm 100% certain that what was meant is Thanks in Advance. I went looking for a better source for such things than Urban Dictionary and found this potentially helpful site: https://www.allacronyms.com/TIA/slang

lool thanks

The server that runs secure.phabricator.com (secure001) has a storage problem, impacting the ability to view revisions, commits, files on repositories, clone repositories (HTTP 500), and even certain Phriction documents (ie. Welcome and the Changelog). Is it a good idea or not to copy the Phabricator changelog? One thing I personally want to properly find is [the support library for secure.phabricator.com](https://secure.phabricator.com/source/secure/) for the Typeahead extension for Phacility support pacts and whatever Shields Up anti-fax abuse feature. Maybe Evan can be informed by an upstream member about the storage problem?

Hi, just want to test chat, because on my local instance It's somehow broken

lol @vlastimilmaca

@vlastimilmaca is Aphlict running on your instance? And ensure your instance isn't silent (check phabricator.silent-mode in Config).

yes, Aphlict is running, but when

instead of sending message.
Another weird thing ... in Config application, I have "Unknown" for version of phorge and arcanist. Is that normal? Probably need to say that we are running on PHP 8.0 (which is after end-of-life anyway)

Run git rev-parse to know you commit hash. Also are you using the stable or master branch?

it was master, we are now on stable and it looks fine (conference ... versions are still Unknown)

Check your logs. I'm the author of the thing that generates the log line in that config error case

thanks, will look into it tomorrow

Cigaryno I don't know your question from the other chat sorry :(

Are you talking about Z1 and all the arc lint trouble I was having on Windows?

yup

Could you answer to my question on Z1? Note that I used an Ubuntu virtual machine to create D25926 without lint problems.

As I said - https://we.phorge.it/Z5#3303 - I don't know how to reply to Windows problem my friend

No problem. I am now using an Ubuntu VM for the reason that Arcanist just works better on Linux.

If I create a new branch while HEAD is detached from master (due to a modified file to create a revision), will the new branch contain the changes on the detached HEAD or only master without the content on HEAD? Note that I didn't create a branch for D25926.

Does the storage problem on secure.phabricator.com (see also Z5#3277) mean we should copy over the Phabricator changelog to this instance?

About changelog, maybe yes in my opinion

But there is a bigger issue: the root welcome and changelog pages won't load with a storage error.

Try with our friend https://web.archive.org/

Looks like a good idea. And do you think the secure support library contains some valuable content? It has a Typeahead extension for admin.phacility.com support pacts as well as a strange anti-abuse things.

Would you have a link to more context? ("secure support library"?)

@aklapper: https://secure.phabricator.com/source/secure/

i'd archive everything from phacility asap, should've done long ago

Is it normal for ssh-add not to work under the root account?

What makes you think that it doesn't work?

Tried that and got a Could not authenticate with your authentication agent. Running eval 'ssh-agent' -s does not clear the error for the root user.

I'm pretty sure you have to be running ssh-agent first before that would be expected to work? I've never in my years of adminstering Linux systems had to do that so I'm wondering if you're mistakenly thinking it's necessary for your particular testing setup but it isn't? Putting public key lines into the user's properly-permission'd ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the far end of the intended SSH connection should be enough. (If you have password auth set up for the remote account, which admittedly one arguably shouldn't do for root, then ssh-copy-id is your friend here.)

I'm alive, I'm just preserving life power for the Wikimedia Hackathon 2025.
@aklapper I've created a stub page for our meetup lol - please edit everything https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T392411

@valerio.bozzolan where and when is this meetup happening?

I too would like to know and to contribute in whatever way I can.

@ton https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2025
You can put this page in watchlist :3
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2026

@ton about the question in the other chat I also always used MariaDB from latest Debian stable for Phorge

Yeah that's how I landed on Phabricator to replace our old Fogbugz install at work back in the day

@valerio.bozzolan with recent PHP (allegedly) growing support for multi-threaded built-in web server I 'd say the only thing that is missing for comfortable local development is sqlite support as an alternative to MariaDB/MySQL

Istanbul is unfortunately very very far from me, so sadly I can't be there, although I'd love to

@keithzg Uh, feel free to propose some paragraphs about Fogbugz here in this comparison guide I started some years ago, about "Phorge ands..." https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Phabricator_Administrator's_Handbook/Compare_Phabricator_and_...&stable=0

I don't believe in free text "comparisons" of tools. These would have to be tables with dozens of rows. Plus it's not really within "admin" scope anyway.

Here your table :3
https://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Phabricator_Administrator%27s_Handbook/Compare_Phabricator_and_...&stable=0&redirect=no

@valerio.bozzolan Ah well the version of Fogbugz we run at my work is two entire products called "Fogbugz" ago, heh, we never made the leap when they made a new version that only ran on Windows and cost roughly 5x per license or something. We might have been the very last people on Earth still running that product branch, and as it happens I set a deadline for people to move off of this month and then the server hosting the VM died and I have used that as sufficient justification to make us a Phorge-only outfit now :D

OK this is fun - thanks andrè for this

https://we.phorge.it/source/phorge/browse/master/webroot/rsrc/css/aphront/typeahead.css;0aa67025f25d30162309d59b4cbe133b6180b2d7$7 - 2011

https://we.phorge.it/source/phorge/browse/master/webroot/rsrc/css/aphront/typeahead.css;7a9d5f8f2de5e44f4014116a47de4ea870361732$7 - 2013

https://we.phorge.it/source/phorge/browse/master/webroot/rsrc/css/aphront/typeahead.css;3cf6f746f0555b4d73d587972d896de99667fb06$7 - 2014

https://we.phorge.it/source/phorge/browse/master/webroot/rsrc/css/aphront/typeahead.css;7aee92b5e95cfc11059e9ff8788e5e53dc88e84d$7 - 2017

This is why a ticket/issue system can turn out useful once someone becomes brave enough to break out of their "Ah well I'll just add a quick TODO in the code" comfort zone